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Posted by Alleppian on 6 March 2010

Thanks Daksh for taking time to enlighten me. 

I am sure if you hold on to a good stock, you will be the ultimate beneficiary. I just mentioned the practical difficulty to create the mindset to hold on in my case. 

I tried a few stocks before but did discontinue it after 2 years without much benefit ( may be if you had stayed away from the regular reports and trends may be i would have stayed on) But I never tried on the stocks you mentioned. Also I will definitely check minimum fundamentals (at least quarter wise performance, divident history,buisiness prospects, promoters stake rather confidence in the company, and their good will etc) before i venture. And I rarely lost in my method. IN FACT THIS GAVE ME BETTER RESULTS THAN MY SIP. So that is why I mentioned it.

But even after selecting this way there are times where a good stock (for eg.ICSA,Ashapura minechem etc) that I believed in could slump to low level due to other reasons. In such cases I have 2 options

One is to accumulate further at lower levels (this could be done if you are planning for long term investment and liquidity is no problem for you)

Another option is to play with a strict stop loss at every rise(that is to imply bit of technicals and watch for a support and resistance method and re-enter accordingly)

Sorry My message is going long....

Any way may be my trading strategy is poor and i am lucky that so far i didn't get much beating yet... So I won't advice it to anybody. 

Thanks Daksh for your time..By the way there are a no. of people asking you your favorite Sip candidates for the future and the ones you hold for the past few years... Will you reveal one or two for the Mumbai Bulls ...hmm..hm 


 
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Posted by u.v.Ramana on 5 March 2010

Dear Hetal,

Please go to the Answered Queries section you will get all the answers and also your doubts shall be cleared.

U.V.Ramana

 
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Posted by Anand Kumar on 5 March 2010

Interesting!!!

When you cant predict the stock price, do SIP.

Investing just Rs. 1000/Month in BSE Small Cap Index from March 2003 to Feb 2010, your SIP value would have been 2,05,000 today

If you had delayed the start by 3 years, you would have got only Rs. 64000 now.

How many of you could have afforder Rs. 5000/Month from 2003? That would have been 10 lacs in Small Cap index.

Dont you think companies have vanished from the small cap index in the period?

Dont waste time thinkig when to start SIP. Remember that every year you delay may cost lacs of rupees for your future.

Spread the risk by

Doing SIP

Doing SIP in atleast 5 counters.

Never stop your SIP (By that you are loosing out the SIP advantage)

Or join a mutual fund ( Growth funds may be by SBI/HDFC/Reliance) if you cant do it on your own.

 

 

 
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Posted by Hetal Patel on 5 March 2010

Hello Daksh

Please suggest 4-5 SIP stocks.

 
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Posted by Dakhsh on 5 March 2010

Dear Allep and other Mumbaibulls,

First all all, Alp, Thanks for bringing up this. I have read your post 2 days back, but couldn't reply earlier as I wanted to make it in details. Hence, here I am now ..

Like you there could be some more people with the misconception that one needs a Infy-ICICI-Larsen or ABAN to enjoy the wonders of SIP which is anyday the wisest way for investment.

You said not every cricketer becomes Sachin Tendulkar irrespective of the hard work. They are anyway not supposed to, they create there own names like MS Dhoni a guy from Jharkand-Ranhci who used to booze and ride bike playing for local teams for Rs 200-400 per game irrespective of his performance in that particluar match.

Didi Dhoni thought he would become the best captain ever for Indian Cricket team or he would ever play for the Nation?

So why was the guy from Pathanamthitta district of Kerala was supposed to know he would grow this big? In fact, Warren Buffet and Bill gates also didnt think about it when they started there career.

Satyam, when a scam at such a level which can make or break Indian Corporate Governance image, it was the Government job to do the DAMAGE CONTROL.

Shouldn't we be proud of the Govt rather than thinking about something which actually didnt happen like what if Govt didnt into? Its like talking about a world which dont even exist or asking about the address of a road which none is going to go!

You were also talking about some list of stocks. I know what kind of stocks there would be in your, but then why would one SIP cats and dogs? The list which I want to show is NSE-50 and BSE-30 stocks are enough to explain that SIP had done wonders even for those who started SIP at Nifty peak 6300 levels in the year 2008.

We still havent reached 6300 back on Nifty, but these NSE 50 and BSE 30 stocks are giving profits already, so what list will you show us? A list which contains stocks like Austral Coke, Pentagon or Soft, ARL, Cals Ref, Veer Energy etc.

You are right, Stock prices cannot be predicted for the long term, but let me tell you that they can be projected given the past performance and future growth perspectives in mind. Like for Example, when I started recommending Educomp at 350 after IPO, I didnt knew in even bestest of my dreams that the stock would do 5k/share.

It took 1300 price levels for me to arrive to the conclusion that its headed towards 5k/share. Such price projection understanding comes along with the time which passes by year on year and it works wisely.

Another example, what target should I had given to people when recommended Tata Motors at Rs 150 in Feb 2009 ir Hero Honda at 600? Surely they would have given me the tag of "Mad Analyst" if I said 1000 by 2010 March.

Most of the people have not SIP and thats why most of them have only losses to show, admit or not, but you too know that its the truth.

I am quite surprised to know that someone of your kind of your knowledge with "9 years experience in stock market", which is actually more than 7 years of mine..lolz..got fooled by a ULIP less than 10k/month salary wala marketting agent who actually wont even know which sectors they will put money into??

ULIP's were introduced by houses to make money for them. The prospects said it all about the charges they are gonna slam on you but you got lost in the magical figures of the ULIP agent with no logical thoughts in the mind.

Last but not the least, SIP is not a TRY. Its a life saver, its a wealth and dreams creator, its a must, its the only way one can not only survive the stock markets but also achieve there Financial Goals which comes after lot of patience, discipline and faith down the line just few years, but is best when its longer.

Rest, its okay to have different opinions, one may no need to be sorry off. But it is also important to see things with a broader picture in mind and learn from mistakes so that 9 years down the line, you also have a different story of yours.

Happy Investing!

 
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Posted by Pinak on 5 March 2010

Hi Daksh, Anyone can learn a lot of things. Thanks for your appreciation.

I would like to teach to do intraday and to learn technical analysis from you.

I am also ready to become premium if i have to.

Please guide me.

 
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Posted by Hetal Patel on 3 March 2010

Hi Daksh Please post ur favorite SIP stocks. I am doing SIP in Anand recommnedations. I would to do SIP in ur  stocks also

 
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Posted by shilpa on 3 March 2010

hi Daksh,

 

Could you please give some guidelines on how to identify the SIP candidates?

 

what are the things to look at to make sure prediction that the business will survive next 20-30 years?

 
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Posted by Alleppian on 3 March 2010

Yes you are true. Sip can do wonders at least in paper (sorry this is my personal view. I am investing in the sharemarket for the past 9 years. Earlier whenever we used to attend a class regarding investment ,they used to show this with examples of infosys,Aban etc etc.even though in the earlier days we used to watch it with an "awe" But the market taught me a lot of lessons including one thing like there are only few becoms Infosys, icici or in the likes. For eg every cricket player can't be sachin tendulkar however hard they practice.

I can show a number of stocks which even after promising to be a steady performer but later disappoints us and disappear. what will happen to those who believed in those companies did "SIP' and wasted their hard earned money. Think about ' Satyam' what would have happened to the investors if the government wouldn't have involved promptly?Think about 'Aban lloyd' it self, who would have thought the company owned by a guy from Pathanamthitta district of Kerala would grow in such a way?

I BELIEVE SHARE PRICES ARE NOT PREDICTABLE FOR A LONG TERM. Most of you guys might differ with me, But how many of you are doing the Sipping for such a long time? I doubt any?

When somebody mentions these magical figures I remember about my ULIP Policy fund agent who used  to show me these kind of magical figures But in my case I never could achieve it. 

So what I prefers is may be Anand's way of Sipping( a truely innovative one) Also I like the trend trading of Daksh. But I always make sure that the company has strong fundamentals and believe in a Very Strict 'STOP LOSS''which is my lesson from the past years.

Pn;I am sure there are plenty of people who differ my opinion. These are purely my opinion based on my past experience only. I am in no way discouraging anybody who wants to try 'Sip' 


 
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Posted by u.v.Ramana on 2 March 2010

Dear Mumbai Bulls,

History has repeated itself time and again.

People who have invested for a long term and on a regular basis have definitely been rewarded and have become rich and also humble from that experience.

I would like to remind everyone about the car-driver of Shri Narayan Murthy who is a crorepathi i believe but still goes about his daily and simple routine,lifestyle.

There are many examples of success,but i pray do not get carried over and forget to be a good human being.

A very humble follower of Mumbaibulls.

U.V.Ramana

 
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